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Where is the realm going?

Post by Reyxor - Lucag on Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:30 pm

I'm wondering. Trying to see positive side of it, but it's not too easy. Seems mostly pockets or rp:ers doing their own things, the public events are there, but seems to be few taking part in general to what there is, at least some happening.

I'm just bored today, so thought to send the word out for anyone who might want to tell their point of view.

Put me out of my misery, lol. Or do something!
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Re: Where is the realm going?

Post by Cid on Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:18 am

First issue, you are right that there are rather few roleplayers partaking in events. This is mainly because there isn't really that many roleplayers on this server as there used to be. Which brings me to the second issue.

We lack opponents. Horde roleplayers are a must to have if we are to live up to the RP-PvP tag that attracts people. We have been declining ever since the Horde RP guilds were driven off over some silly, toxic disagreements and 'bounty' hunts. Alliance roleplayers (COGSHIELD) actively hunted down those they disagreed with to attack them on their events, which didn't bring any good whatsoever. Which brings me to the third issue.

This server and the community on it don't really do anything active in terms of advertisement, relying on reputation to be spread 'automatically', which we clearly see is not working (either that, or it may be that our reputation isn't enviable. Either way, it is not a good position to be in). We need to work on the toxicity levels if we are to get a proper reputation and get more people here to work with us, if we are to survive as a RP-realm.

Fourth issue is part of third issue, as we lack someone who can make recruitment videos and such. When the community was larger, we had people like Melvenor, Kozgugore (I think it was he who made the ORB video at least), Spyre etc, who all made videos and machinima promoting lore, our server and guilds etc. These days we lack updated material to post on forums and youtube, which further feeds those who claim that RP is dead on this server.

It doesn't help anything whatsoever that we hide away from the realm forums and other public channels. We miss out great opportunities of recruitment by not using those to promote our activities. Sure enough, we might get trolls along once in a while, but we need to show others that we are doing something actively, that we are not a dead realm RP-wise as so many claim.

Those are my few coppers on the matter. Others might not agree with me about this, but remember that I first and foremost have held the servers best interest in mind. We need progressive discussions and actions, not naysayers who say 'no' just because any thought of change is horrifying to them.
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Re: Where is the realm going?

Post by Reyxor - Lucag on Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:36 am

Good points, I find it hilarious these days, as soon as there has been new rp:ers and they'd wish to learn to rp, the direction it goes is often Argent Dawn. As it's mostly populated with rp:ers I think it's quite plausible, but find it demoralizing myself to try to recruit these days. Since it starts to move to AD very quickly, once it's seen how big difference there is in amount of rp:ers.

The thing is, AD is big in numbers, but there individuals easily sunk into there I guess and it's like there is a lot of drama, and annoying rp. Looking at Discord on AD and DB, that I happen to know at least, are like hurricane and calm when compared to weather conditions.

My venture cross realm has proved it's a lot different, there are good rp guilds on AD don't get me wrong, I respect some of the players or like most, but there isn't at this stage I'm learning of it not better, else than if you wish to see a lot of rp:ers.

I however would like to see more rp:ers on DB et al. I don't mean to try to somehow divert players from AD to DB, but simply as Cid there well said, promote a bit DB too, not on AD but DB realm forums, I agree.

Anyway, there is some stronger community feeling on DB, as players don't have a lot of players to get to know with, so players are playing with same players more. Since there is no Horde on DB currently, this is quite astonishing situation in my opinion to do something new for any Horde rp guilds there may be, since there is no one telling what to do or not to do.

As for Alliance I'm content but as Cid told the rp-pvp is currently non existant. I tried to start something at Howling Fjord, yet I guess neither Alliance on AD or DB were too intersted in cross realm, however some Horde players were quite alright with the idea of cross realm rp-pvp. I request some understanding, if there is any interest at all in rp-pvp to bear with doing it cross realm, I enjoyed it as much as any before rp-pvp on DB.

Cross realm is at first unsuitable for me too, but due to the circumstances it has become for me a must, and accepting events cross realm would be for the better of AD and DB, since both have a lot to gain from each server community. There is a barrier in between cross realm rp, but it's just there to be broken.
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Re: Where is the realm going?

Post by Naroma on Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:06 am

The people who want to RP amongst themselves have no need to promote externally, the people who want more active random RP are generally (in my opinion) always seeking someone else to bring it in for them, and/or struggle to find other players who share their enthusiasm to put time into promoting the server.

There's no quick 'fix' to what some of you feel is broken. Very few people are actively seeking the boom in activity a minority are vocal about bringing about.

The majority seems to be the small groups content with their RP. Which is okay, and pretty much what the server offers for smaller scale RP. Don't really see it changing, or see it as a bad thing.

And regarding your point about hiding away from realm forums etc, speaking for myself, I'm not hiding from them, but neither do I have a reason to actively seek them. We all know what exists on DB.. And to be honest, so does everyone from other realms. Small pockets of focused RP. Its not that we aren't visible and people are going to be surprised we have things going on. Activities decline with the age of a game, usually player driven activities such as roleplaying are the first to feel the punch.

TL;DR Everyone knows about DB, but only a minority have the drive and desire to 'fix' it. Plenty of content players around.

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Re: Where is the realm going?

Post by Webbles on Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:32 am

If people don't attend Event X, there's a good chance that Event X is bad.

As for the realm forums, what they need is a bunch of dumb vaguely RP related threads like they have over on AD, because they showcase the presence of an RP community to anyone visiting the forums and make the server look fun and welcoming. No one gives a damn about the monthly bland guild recruitment bumps and event/campaign ads.

But this same discussion has already happened 129058 times. If you're not content with things, start actively changing them instead of whining about it.
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Re: Where is the realm going?

Post by Reyxor - Lucag on Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:58 am

Webbles wrote:If people don't attend Event X, there's a good chance that Event X is bad.

As for the realm forums, what they need is a bunch of dumb vaguely RP related threads like they have over on AD, because they showcase the presence of an RP community to anyone visiting the forums and make the server look fun and welcoming. No one gives a damn about the monthly bland guild recruitment bumps and event/campaign ads.

But this same discussion has already happened 129058 times. If you're not content with things, start actively changing them instead of whining about it.

Luvly, got it.

Instead of discrediting, be a hero for me and do at least try not to show you hate me as much as I think you do.
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Re: Where is the realm going?

Post by Webbles on Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:31 am

Reyxor - Lucag wrote:as much as I think you do.

I have no feelings towards you whatsoever. :)
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Re: Where is the realm going?

Post by Azapha Today at 7:04 am

The reality is AD is a more practical realm to casual role play on. Theres a lot of RPers and activity and if that's what someone wants then it's there, DB sells to a smaller audience.

Webbles nailed it on one thing which is people Don't often pull big events or get numbers because there event probably sucked at selling or was expected to. If people really want to help get events going then support the people who try make them, we have some great event writers on DB just look at flemk's event posts.

It is what it is and complaining don't work as much as actually trying to do it.
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