[A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

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[A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Skarain on Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:33 pm

Well, i do, and i'd love to get together and brainstorm a bit with people who think the same way. I'd want to bring some "action" to the roleplaying scene. What kind of chaos and conflict? I have vague ideas, from guilds to plots and list goes on, but in total i'd hope to create something that might "flip the table" and get us something nice and interesting to do while waiting for Warlords of Draenor.

If there is a lack of conflict in lore, gotta create some yourself.

Poke me preferably ingame and we can set up a group to chat.

Note: This is primarily not RP-PvP in mind, but roleplaying conflict between groups or otherwise.

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Post by Krogon Devilstep on Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:41 pm

You have peeked my interest Kemosabe, please continue.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Skarain on Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:13 pm

Thanks for all who responded.

This thread have served it purpose and can be considered closed.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Tethos on Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:50 am

Skarain wrote:I'd want to bring some "action" to the roleplaying scene.

+1

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by erwtenpeller on Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:48 am

Conflict will arise organically where different factions disagree.

If you want to experience conflict, roll a character with strong convictions and get in there. This isn't something you achieve through forum posts and plotting. To be meaningful, conflict has to arise through natural character interaction.

I always play characters with strong convictions, a fight is always just around the corner.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Allonia_Miral on Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:44 pm

Helps you find the people to do those interactions with though.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Gesh on Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:58 am

Personally, I prefer peace.

I feel like too many roleplay situations come down to petty disagreements (in reference to IC!), I get that's its to be expected that personalities would clash, but I feel most scenes play out with which guy has the bigger emote balls to do something daring and/or avoid what daring action was done against them.

I like conflict within roleplay when it's done correctly and is treated with the proper weight, no one seems to react as heavily when someone draws a weapon nowadays, I mean.. it's all very common place? I wish there was of a sort-a.. not sacred attitude towards violence, but that more roleplayers appreciated the value of playing the cautious and/or scared individual.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Izzifix on Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:44 am

Lamb wrote:Personally, I prefer peace.

I feel like too many roleplay situations come down to petty disagreements (in reference to IC!), I get that's its to be expected that personalities would clash, but I feel most scenes play out with which guy has the bigger emote balls to do something daring and/or avoid what daring action was done against them.

I like conflict within roleplay when it's done correctly and is treated with the proper weight, no one seems to react as heavily when someone draws a weapon nowadays, I mean.. it's all very common place? I wish there was of a sort-a.. not sacred attitude towards violence, but that more roleplayers appreciated the value of playing the cautious and/or scared individual.

Conflict, in the narrative sense, is not about that hyper aggressive worgen death knight punching your face in and badass paladin of the month punching him into a cell, but a less obvious, yet much grander thing.

Conflict in this sense, is that instinctive feeling you get when an anethionean stares across the Council chambers at the ebon knight during some boring speech. Conflict in this sense is when commoners of different origins are gathered, talking in lowered voices, plotting revolution against the corrupt Minister of Justice. Conflict in this sense, is the only fuel that truly makes me enjoy roleplaying at all.

On a character-to-character scale, I tend to agree with Erwt, conflict will arise organicly. On a guild-/community-scale however, I believe Skar's approach is necessary. At least it might need a slight push to start running.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by siegmund on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:21 am

Sadly we're mostly stuck with "/Y bang bang" right now.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Feral / Blackfall on Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:18 pm

Dwyburn wrote:Conflict in this sense is when commoners of different origins are gathered

I read "of different onions." Took a moment to try and puzzle this out. >.>

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Allonia_Miral on Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:23 pm

We are all onions after all.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Grim on Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:01 pm

We've had some grand ideas to come hunt down you Alliance folk, to surprise you by attacking you in the real world. Kinda like we did back during the Siege of Orgrimmar.

Problem being that Alliance Rp'ers outside of cities are few and far between!

Basically, if you lot were more adventurous you might find more adventure. Or something.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by erwtenpeller on Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:15 pm

We've tried being adventurous. Getting harassed by certain w-pvp guilds makes it somewhat less fun.

And by less fun I mean impossible.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Amaryl on Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:18 pm

There is no RP without conflict, since its boring.

There would be no TV, no books, no stories, no nothing, without conflict. everything interesting exists around conflict.

but, if you like RP that talks about the weather Smile

That doesn't mean Conflict cannot be small or big, but you got to have it.

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Post by Rackle Fizzlegear on Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:12 pm

I like the idea of there being more conflict, but I've noticed that people don't take fear into account when RPing a conflict situation, if you are surrounded by armed men for example, it would be unlikely that you would attempt to fight them all off. Most characters fear death to some degree. However so few seem to take the fear of death into account.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by erwtenpeller on Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:36 pm

Rackle Fizzlegear wrote:it would be unlikely that you would attempt to fight them all off. Most characters fear death to some degree.
That is an assumption. Players can decide for themselves if their character fears situations that may cause them harm or not. I know my paladin certainly didn't.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Rackle Fizzlegear on Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:09 pm

That's why I said most*

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Post by Amaryl on Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:42 pm

Neither does fear of death preclude characters from being unreasonable in the face of danger and acting like an imbecile indestructible killing machine.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Bradley on Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:42 pm

erwtenpeller wrote:
That is an assumption. Players can decide for themselves if their character fears situations that may cause them harm or not. I know my paladin certainly didn't.

If this is the case with certain characters, then the players behind those characters should naturally accept and probably expect character death. Nothing worse than badass whiteknights stubbornly tossing themselves into situations where they are greatly outnumbered, just to hide behind the blueshield that is character death while acting just as tough Ic when things don't go their way

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Ixirar/Kavalis on Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:44 pm

Bradley wrote:
erwtenpeller wrote:
That is an assumption. Players can decide for themselves if their character fears situations that may cause them harm or not. I know my paladin certainly didn't.

If this is the case with certain characters, then the players behind those characters should naturally accept and probably expect character death. Nothing worse than badass whiteknights stubbornly tossing themselves into situations where they are greatly outnumbered, just to hide behind the blueshield that is character death while acting just as tough Ic when things don't go their way

while this is true, do keep in mind that character death should still happen at the discretion of the player. You can't just go ahead and demand char death because somebody is reckless, no matter how OP you perceive them to be.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by erwtenpeller on Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:45 pm

They should!

....But they have the right not to. If you don't like it, you can just try to avoid role-playing with them.

Everyone has their own style, and many styles clash. You can't tell other people how they like their role-play... But you can avoid role-playing with people who role-play in a style you don't like.

Am I making any sense?

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Post by Allonia_Miral on Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:47 pm

My character does fear, but tends to act like she can do more than she actually can. It usually works, since people walk off instead of fighting her.

She's not actually as strong as she pretends or sometimes likes to think she is.

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Post by Bradley on Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:49 pm

Obviously, I'm not saying I'd force anything upon anyone, I dislike character death in general and would rather come up with something else

However, take the consequences of your actions. I've escaped execution on several characters simply by cooperating with the law. If people, essentially the oh so tough -good- guys get themselves into silly situations because they 'don't fear death', then they ought to be able to realize what will most likely eventually come

This has been a reoccurring problem, especially with certain guards and authority


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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Lexgrad on Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:25 pm

Ixirar/Kavalis wrote:
Bradley wrote:
erwtenpeller wrote:
That is an assumption. Players can decide for themselves if their character fears situations that may cause them harm or not. I know my paladin certainly didn't.

If this is the case with certain characters, then the players behind those characters should naturally accept and probably expect character death. Nothing worse than badass whiteknights stubbornly tossing themselves into situations where they are greatly outnumbered, just to hide behind the blueshield that is character death while acting just as tough Ic when things don't go their way

while this is true, do keep in mind that character death should still happen at the discretion of the player. You can't just go ahead and demand char death because somebody is reckless, no matter how OP you perceive them to be.

I do wonder how wise this rule is. Plot armour (greed armour perhaps) is a scourge on RP. Then again without it people would just all be ninjas so... idk.

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Re: [A] Do you dislike "peace" and lack of conflict on the RP scene?

Post by Rackle Fizzlegear on Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:56 pm

I agree with bradleys point, fair enough if you want to rp a reckless character, but you can't expect them to walk away from situations unharmed or possibly ( with the players discretion) dead

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