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Post by Rin-Lin on Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:15 am

Steampunk.
It's something I love, very much, in all aspects.
Now, I know that most people would probably see it as more of a Goblin / Gnome thing, but I think that all kinds of races would have some interest in it... Well, maybe some inviduals atleast.

Aaaanyway!
Just checking to see if anyone would be interested to RP and establish such a guild. And, yes, I know, there's The Flying Bolts, but they're more profit-driven.

So, any ideas? Smile

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Demurral on Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:24 pm

So... a Goblin guild?

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Helmut on Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:28 pm

I just vizualize this...
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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Rin-Lin on Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:25 am

Domovoi wrote:So... a Goblin guild?

-sigh- Not only.
As I said in the first post, it would be for all races.

Helmut wrote:I just vizualize this...
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Right.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by erwtenpeller on Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:01 am

The Band of the Brave, Wild Tempest and the Flying Bolts are all pretty close already to being a "steampunk guild". The problem with a themed guild is that a theme is not a goal. You goals to role-play a broader guild story.

The Band of the Brave is a collective of adventurers. Their goals vary from week to week, but adventurers are prone to being pioneers in all sorts of fields, be it magic, engineering, cooking. Because engineering fits the guild organically, there are quite a fair bit of engineers. There are times when mechanical mounts outnumber others.

Wild Tempest is the military. They've got access to all sorts of bad-ass equipment, from tanks to flying boats. And let's not forget the guns! It is natural for a Military Guild to attract engineers.

Flying Bolts is primarily goblins. And heck, it's got bolts in the name. That guild is all about engineering and that steampunk atmosphere the tiny people do so well, but it is not their goal.

Because being badass and "steampunk" isn't a goal. You can't sustain a guild on that.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Amaryl on Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:09 am

one the scale of threads made regarding the; "I have this great idea for a guild, anyone here wants to join/help me/make it" formula, this one is a severe pile of mucus.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Rin-Lin on Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:51 am

...Fine.
Fuck it then.
Just forget it.¨
Not gonna make it.
So bloody sorry for trying to bring people with a common interest together.

...And you lot didn't have to be so frikkin' rude about it either. You appear like a bunch of elitist ass-hats.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Ixirar/Kavalis on Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:17 pm

If -this- level of critique was enough to make you drop your project in a temper tantrum, I think you're probably better off not being a guild master.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Cirenah on Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:36 pm

Ixirar/Kavalis wrote:If -this- level of critique was enough to make you drop your project in a temper tantrum, I think you're probably better off not being a guild master.

Or being part of any kind of community.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Allonia_Miral on Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:40 pm

Yeah geez how dares Rin set foot here, let's all freeze her out man.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by erwtenpeller on Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:46 pm

Be nice.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Littlepip on Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:51 pm

Indeed, or do you need to feel the water flask again Allonia?

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Allonia_Miral on Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:05 pm

... That was sarcasm, just in case other people missed it too.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Littlepip on Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:12 pm

Didn't miss it, I know you to well to miss such an obvious one.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Izzifix on Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:47 pm

How do you do "Steampunk" anyway?

I'm totally blank.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Skarain on Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:01 pm

To my knowledge, Steampunk things are... like flying ships working on steam? Most mechanical in WoW universe is Steam Punk things. All Engineering devices that involve steam.

...i think?

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Cid on Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:38 pm

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I think this might be what you mean, Inran?

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Rin-Lin on Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:39 am

Ixirar/Kavalis wrote:If -this- level of critique was enough to make you drop your project in a temper tantrum, I think you're probably better off not being a guild master.

Critique? Really?
I just got sawed, and basically undermined.

I can handle critigue, if it's said in a NICER manner, than just kinda: Lol, ermaahgerd, steampunkz? u goblin? if u no goblin, u no steampunkerz.

Cirenah wrote:
Ixirar/Kavalis wrote:If -this- level of critique was enough to make you drop your project in a temper tantrum, I think you're probably better off not being a guild master.

Or being part of any kind of community.

That was just plain rude, and uncalled for.
But, I am assuming that you were referring to yourself.
FYI: I co-run a guild, and I am a fair and just co-leader.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Coppersocket on Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:26 am

Rin-Lin wrote:Critique? Really?
I just got sawed, and basically undermined.
No you weren't, and stop trying to put big words on it. You might feel that you were, but fuck. If your level of dedication really is that floaty, you're probably best of not doing so. Not for your sake, as much as for others.

A "Steampunk" guild is just engineering in general in WoW, and as said by Ewrt, it's not necessarily a good base for a guild.
See the guns in Ulduar, the steam tanks, and other such stuff that is related to Engineering for good examples of this.

Why? It lacks any clear direction, and becomes stale very quickly. You're better off just making a small offshoot of members from different guilds who may have interest in something similar, given that you feel you can play the illusion game enough to create stuff that you can't visually see.


TLDR:
Don't be a whiny bitch. Don't make a guild. Make a small social group with similar interests without binding it to a guild. "Steampunk", is already a well established thing in game- as basically all Engineering is influenced by it, if not directly using steam.
Rin-Lin wrote:FYI: I co-run a guild, and I am a fair and just co-leader.
Says you, yes. Anyone can claim that, really. Do mind, I'm not claiming the opposite- but saying you're a fair and just Co-leader could equally just be you not knowing yourself. /shrug

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Kittrina on Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:39 am

You had a bit of a overreaction considering it'd only been pretty mild negative reactions. And tbh this is Defias negativity is like death and taxes, happens to us all now and then.

But if it upsets you so much and touches nerves like it seems to have it's probably best left alone, not because of anything to do with the idea but because whatever your idea, you will run into people who dislike it and are vocal about that.

And if you can't counter-argue or explain what you think's fantastic about your idea without getting angry or upset, running a guild is going to be an emotionally draining and horrible experience for you.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by erwtenpeller on Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:12 am

Well. This thread turned sour quick. Sad

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Amaryl on Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:16 am

Yes I'm an asshole, in this regard, but let me explain why.

Rin-Lin wrote:Steampunk.
It's something I love, very much, in all aspects.
Now, I know that most people would probably see it as more of a Goblin / Gnome thing, but I think that all kinds of races would have some interest in it... Well, maybe some inviduals atleast.

Aaaanyway!
Just checking to see if anyone would be interested to RP and establish such a guild. And, yes, I know, there's The Flying Bolts, but they're more profit-driven.

So, any ideas? Smile

Okey, you love steampunk.

you want a guild that's not just a goblin/gnome guild.
and you want a guild that's not profit-driven.


that's the complete and total extent of your guild idea that you communicated.

Next to that you say, you're checking if anyone is interested to establish such a guild, or in other words, you're not pronouncing that you are going to be establishing your own guild idea, and trying to make it work. You're looking for Others to do it for you.

Your entire post could be summed up to this:

"I like steampunk? someone want to make steampunk for me? but not the already existing steampunk, a new and different steampunk."

Or to sum it up even more:

"             "

Yes there's nothing between those quotes, that's the point.

If you had put even an ounce of creativity in your own post, instead of just looking for it from other people, then maybe, your thread would be worth a positive or constructive reply.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Muzjhath on Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:56 pm

On the bright side. Now Rin can claim having been sawed.
If in a fair and constructive way.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Rin-Lin on Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:24 am

Why do you have to mock and troll me so much?
Cause I make an "easy" target?
Mind you, I am also a person behind the screen, with feelings and thoughts.

And no, I didn't mean to let others do it for me - I guess I expressed myself wrongly.

To get bombarded with a flow of negative shit can put anyone off, really. So, no - I'm not overreacting.
Alas, as said, I should perhaps have expressed muaelf differently.

Besides, even if I did work on the first post, and made it real appealing, I... Well, the interest doesn't seem that big.

As for the guild leader thing, you can ask anyone in there. It's not MY opinion - it is theirs.

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Re: [H] Interest check for a steampunk-themed guild and ideas?

Post by Coppersocket on Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:55 am

Yes, constructive criticism is clearly trolling.

Perhaps it's time you stop living in a fairytale, princess.


People were, including myself- quite fair on you. People did give their reasons to why they found it a bad idea. Your reactions in response, is overly childish.
Equally, it doesn't matter if it's "their" words, it was you who claimed it. "They", can literally be anyone- it can equally be nobody. They too, could also simply be driven by favoritism.
The fact that you can't cope with simple negativity, is clearly questionable.

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