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Post by Sanara on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:26 pm

I have very mixed feelings about all this. It looks good, but Blizzard have burned me one too many times already (Illidan and the Lich King as villains, the Thrall and Aggra show, the uninspiring slog through most of Pandaria) so while I really really really want this to be fantastic and be just the thing to finally convince me to stay in WoW for another few years, I just can't help but feel this sinking sensation in my chest - angst, and fear of this uncertain future.

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Post by Drustai on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:28 pm

I'm interested in the idea, but wary of the execution. It's also kind of silly that the only way for Blizzard to give us draenei lore is to repeat the same old story that we already have.

Still, it's something. Also, Karabor looks gorgeous.

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Post by Ave/Sariella on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:29 pm

Male gnome model on the website aswell Surprised Dwarves are like fuzzy bears.

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Post by Raenmar on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:30 pm

Not particularly fond of the idea of an entire expansion based on time travel, but I always wanted to go to Draenor before it got destroyed.

Garrisons look cool as fuck too.

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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Thelos on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:32 pm

My body and soul are ready to be sacrificed to Blizzard whole.

Again.

Once more will I plunge headfirst into whatever they throw at me.

...Too bad there won't be any new draenei models, though!

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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Muzjhath on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:34 pm

I'll ask this. If this horde is somehow not the fel-blood fuled one.
What reason would the Horde of Azeroth ever have not joining them?

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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Thelos on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:35 pm

Muzjhath wrote:I'll ask this. If this horde is somehow not the fel-blood fuled one.
What reason would the Horde of Azeroth ever have not joining them?
I suspect we'll know the awnser soon, when the news from the WoW panel trickles in.

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Post by Vaell on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:36 pm

Are they not updating all character models?

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Post by Thelos on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:37 pm

Vaell wrote:Are they not updating all character models?
Judging from the website, all the vanilla models are getting updated.

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Post by Drustai on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:37 pm

Muzjhath wrote:I'll ask this. If this horde is somehow not the fel-blood fuled one..
At this point in time, the Horde was not under the effects of fel blood. They only drank it at the end of the war.

I'm hoping Blizzard remembers this fact.

As for why the Horde doesn't join them... because maybe they've finally learned from their past mistakes? I mean, we just had Garrosh to drive the point home.

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Post by Vaell on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:39 pm

Thelos wrote:
Vaell wrote:Are they not updating all character models?
Judging from the website, all the vanilla models are getting updated.
On the main site? Trying to find them now.

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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Thelos on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:39 pm

Drustai wrote:
Muzjhath wrote:I'll ask this. If this horde is somehow not the fel-blood fuled one..
At this point in time, the Horde was not under the effects of fel blood. They only drank it at the end of the war.

I'm hoping Blizzard remembers this fact.

As for why the Horde doesn't join them... because maybe they've finally learned from their past mistakes? I mean, we just had Garrosh to drive the point home.
Judging from the website, only Gul'dan and his lot are fel-corrupted.

Also:

Garrosh's goal is to stop the Orcs from drinking the blood of Mannoroth and building the Iron Horde using technology from the present.
It's basicly Red Alert 3, with Garrosh as the Soviet scientists and I am 100% okay with that.

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Post by Vaell on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:39 pm

And to be fair, I can imagine Blackhand wouldn't bow down to Vol'jin being the Warchief so the Horde aren't just going to pussy foot to a new chieftain.

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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Thelos on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:40 pm

Vaell wrote:
Thelos wrote:
Vaell wrote:Are they not updating all character models?
Judging from the website, all the vanilla models are getting updated.
On the main site? Trying to find them now.
Here.

You can see the updated male Dwarves, Orcs and Gnomes; the rest of the vanilla models is greyed out, implying that they'll be put on the website eventually.


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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Sanara on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:40 pm

Drustai wrote:
Muzjhath wrote:I'll ask this. If this horde is somehow not the fel-blood fuled one.
What reason would the Horde of Azeroth ever have not joining them?
because maybe they've finally learned from their past mistakes? I mean, we just had Garrosh to drive the point home.
Yeah, the Iron Horde might not be Fel-blood yet, but they're still pretty fucking evil. It is likely Blizzard wants the post-Garrosh Horde to continue the path laid down by Thrall. The genocide against the Draenei was a bad thing as far as he was concerned, so I imagine the modern Horde would oppose the Iron Horde on that point alone.

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Thelos wrote:"Garrosh's goal is to stop the Orcs from drinking the blood of Mannoroth and building the Iron Horde using technology from the present."
WAIT WHAT. Where's this from?

How is Garrosh going back in time? TARAN ZHU YOU HAD ONE JOB!


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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Thelos on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:41 pm

Actually I think it's more likely that the New Horde will want to stop the Old Horde because the Old Horde is trying to kill them.

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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Lexgrad on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:43 pm

Ally city is karabor!  (Imagines Thelos's head explode)


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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Thelos on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:44 pm

MMO-Champ has a live feed.

Things are being explained as we type.

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Post by Thelos on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:45 pm

The Alliance will defend Karabor (Black Temple) and make it their main city this expansion.
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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Sanara on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:48 pm

Thelos wrote:MMO-Champ has a live feed.

Things are being explained as we type.
Have they explained why the ancient Draenei settlements of Telredor, Orebor and Twin Spire are now located at the bottom of a bloody sea?

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Post by Siaer on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:49 pm

Yay indeed!

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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Helmut on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:49 pm

God damnit! Now Helmut will have to take pointers and listen to draeneis when he wants to lead scouts and spies! He will not like it!

And damn I hope for updates on all races!

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Re: Warlords of Draenor - General Discussion

Post by Thelos on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:50 pm

Chrono-shift plot convenience map-balancing-so-that-we-don't-have-too-many-draenei-settlements anomaly timedragons.

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Post by Drustai on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:52 pm

Hm. The more I read, the more confusing it gets. Looks to be an alternate reality rather than an exact retelling of the past, yes? Draenei still hold Karabor, but orcs control Shattrath, which is opposite of how it was in actual history.

Also, map shows an intact Auchindoun. I'm really looking forward to seeing how they portray the Auchenai in this.


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Post by Thelos on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:53 pm

Drustai wrote:Hm. The more I read, the more confusing it gets. Looks to be an alternate reality rather than an exact retelling of the past, yes? Draenei still hold Karabor, but orcs control Shattrath, which is opposite of how it was in actual history.
Basicly, Garrosh traveled back in the past and stopped his daddy from drinking demonblood.

The heroes of Azeroth followed him.

All bets are off.

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