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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by erwtenpeller on Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:35 am

You find a lot of things infuriating. Smile

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Paia/Jenit on Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:46 am

Raenmar wrote:Does nobody else find it absolutely fucking infuriating that they have the nerve to announce virtual realms a week after offering realm transfers for 50%? They knew they had a solution, but instead of giving it out they kept it hidden to milk every last customer they could.

To be fair, it wasn't just transfers than were 50% off, it was all services including things like recustomization and faction changes in that. I know, I used one.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Drustai on Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:21 pm

Thelos wrote:Garrosh Getting Hijacked by Ganon all but confirmed now.

Pride is, literally, the final boss of this expansion.

How very fitting.





Nope. Sha of Pride comes before Garrosh, and the datamining of Garrosh's fight seems to indicate he's in control, rather than being controlled.


Also, I love the fact that we're fighting the Klaxxi and Nazgrim.

With the Klaxxi, we have an evil rebel faction that actually turns out to be evil. We knew they were bad, and our helping them solve their problems didn't result in the cliched ending of turning them good in the process. It is good that Blizzard are maintaining their badness.

And Nazgrim, fulfilling the role of The Dragon, is apparently, for once, an actual "grey" raid boss. This is something we've been needing for a long time! He's not corrupted, not insane. He's just as honorable and loyal as he's been throughout the last two expansions, he just happens to be loyal to the guy we're fighting and is therefore our enemy. That's awesome. Now let's hope we actually kill him instead of him turning to our side at 1% health.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Manathon on Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:47 pm

There's a boss named "Thok the Bloodthirsty".

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This has the potential of being the best boss in the raid.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Raene on Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:20 pm

The way I see it going down.

Beat Garrosh down to a pulp.

Phase 1 ends with Garrosh going on a long Kael'thas-esque speech about how he's awesome. Sha of Pride jumps in, gets into Garrosh, Phase 2 begins.

Beat Sha'd Garrosh. Toolate.jpg. Orgrimmar gets the Sha treatment and begins growing tentacles everywhere, Sha no longer needs Garrosh and leaves him behind on his knees rather than killing him.

Last boss, Sha of Pride fight all throughout Orgrimmar with all the adds you've beaten and bosses coming back as phases to go through as they're Sha-ified. Beat the Sha back into a corner, kill it coincidentally next to the wounded Garrosh. sadmonologue.png.

If he dies or not, is left ambiguous as NPC's take over the speech and drag him off somewhere. No word about Garrosh being dead or alive, but everyone knows he's "gone". 6.5 rolls around and a giant winged enemy with four arms and four legs comes over on the horizon. It's Illidan carrying Garrosh. Nerdgasm.gif. Save the world with their help. New Scenario for 6.6 show Arthas and Jaina hooking up again through some mystical Bronze dragonflight stuff. 6.7 shows the return of good Neltharion through Wrathions actions.

7.0 fight Azshara, Night Elves regain their empire, Wow 2.0 Alliance and Horde vs the Night Elf empire.

Not sure where my idea turned into dreamland, but it's about as believable as Metzen and Knaak.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Drustai on Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:27 pm

Raene wrote:The way I see it going down.

Beat Garrosh down to a pulp.

Phase 1 ends with Garrosh going on a long Kael'thas-esque speech about how he's awesome. Sha of Pride jumps in, gets into Garrosh, Phase 2 begins.

Beat Sha'd Garrosh. Toolate.jpg. Orgrimmar gets the Sha treatment and begins growing tentacles everywhere, Sha no longer needs Garrosh and leaves him behind on his knees rather than killing him.

Last boss, Sha of Pride fight all throughout Orgrimmar with all the adds you've beaten and bosses coming back as phases to go through as they're Sha-ified. Beat the Sha back into a corner, kill it coincidentally next to the wounded Garrosh. sadmonologue.png.





Sha of Pride is a separate boss.

Y'shaarj on the other hand...


Garrosh, wielding his new weapon with his True Horde and siege machines at his disposal will destroy any intruders. The True Horde join the battle more frequently as the fight progresses. This phase will continue until Garrosh reaches 30% health remaining.

  • Garrosh Hellscream – Warchief of the True Horde.

    • Desecrate – Garrosh hurls the Desecrated Weapon at a random enemy, inflicting 97500 to 102500 Shadow damage to enemies within 15 yards and creates a Desecrated Weapon at the location.

      • Desecrated Weapon – The Desecrated Weapon is seeping with Y'shaarj power, as the health of the weapon gets lower, the radius of the Desecrated ground becomes smaller.



    • [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Hellscream's Warsong – Hellscream's Warsong inspires his allies, increasing damage dealt by 25% and increasing health by 50%.



  • Kor'kron Grunt – Grunts stream in from the sides of the room and join the battle more frequently as the phase progresses.

    • Hamstring – Inflicts 73125 to 76875 Physical damage and reduces move speed by 50% for until cancelled.



  • Farseer Wolf Rider – The Farseers will join the battle less frequently than the grunts, they too join the battle more frequently as the phase progresses.

    • [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Ancestral Fury – Being interrupted causes Fury, increasing cast speed by 25%. Stacks.
    • [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Greater Healing Wave – Heals a friendly target for 487500 to 512500.
    • [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Chain Lightning – Inflicts 243750 to 256250 Nature damage, chaining to nearby enemies.



  • Siege Engineer – The Siege Engineers enter from the side balcony and begin to Power the Iron Star which will become active after 15 sec if the Siege Engineer is not killed.
  • Kor'kron Iron Star – After becoming activated by the Siege Engineers the Iron Star will roll across the room, slamming into the opposite wall.

    • Iron Star Impact – Inflictsmassive damage to any players or Kor'kron that are caught in it's path, knocking them back.
    • Exploding Iron Star – The impact of the Iron Star causes it to explode, inflicting 1950000 to 2050000 Fire damage to nearby enemies. The damage inflicted decreases the farther away an enemy is from the explosion.



Intermission: Realm of Y'shaarj
Periodically the call of Y'shaarj will transport Garrosh and the players into the Realm of Y'shaarj for 1 min. Garrosh will Absorb Energy from the Heart of Y'shaarj until players have defeated all Minions of Y'shaarj inside the realm and interrupt Garrosh.

Stage Two: Corruption of Y'shaarj
After absorbing the Power of Y'shaarj, Garrosh will heal to full health as Y'shaarj bestows Garrosh with new abilities.

Stage Three: MY WORLD
At 30% health Garrosh will absorb the remaining power of Y'shaarj, gaining full energy, empowering all of his abilities.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Lavian on Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:28 pm

Raene wrote:The way I see it going down.

Beat Garrosh down to a pulp.

Phase 1 ends with Garrosh going on a long Kael'thas-esque speech about how he's awesome. Sha of Pride jumps in, gets into Garrosh, Phase 2 begins.

Beat Sha'd Garrosh. Toolate.jpg. Orgrimmar gets the Sha treatment and begins growing tentacles everywhere, Sha no longer needs Garrosh and leaves him behind on his knees rather than killing him.

Last boss, Sha of Pride fight all throughout Orgrimmar with all the adds you've beaten and bosses coming back as phases to go through as they're Sha-ified. Beat the Sha back into a corner, kill it coincidentally next to the wounded Garrosh. sadmonologue.png.

If he dies or not, is left ambiguous as NPC's take over the speech and drag him off somewhere. No word about Garrosh being dead or alive, but everyone knows he's "gone". 6.5 rolls around and a giant winged enemy with four arms and four legs comes over on the horizon. It's Illidan carrying Garrosh. Nerdgasm.gif. Save the world with their help. New Scenario for 6.6 show Arthas and Jaina hooking up again through some mystical Bronze dragonflight stuff. 6.7 shows the return of good Neltharion through Wrathions actions.

7.0 fight Azshara, Night Elves regain their empire, Wow 2.0 Alliance and Horde vs the Night Elf empire.

Not sure where my idea turned into dreamland, but it's about as believable as Metzen and Knaak.

Well considering Garrosh is the last boss and sha of pride is bosses before....And from what I understand Garrosh is the one in control, not the sha.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Lexgrad on Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:50 pm

Just remember....there must always be a warchief.

I cant wait to see the Strom instance.  Clearly someone in Blizz was lvling in Arathi and remembered about the place.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Raene on Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:20 pm

Lexgrad wrote:Just remember....there must always be a warchief.


Haaah. Someone gets it.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Allonia_Miral on Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:20 pm

Lordaeron! Yeah!

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Thelos on Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:20 pm

Drustai wrote:
Thelos wrote:Garrosh Getting Hijacked by Ganon all but confirmed now.

Pride is, literally, the final boss of this expansion.

How very fitting.







Nope. Sha of Pride comes before Garrosh, and the datamining of Garrosh's fight seems to indicate he's in control, rather than being controlled.

Fine, hijacked by Y'shaarj then.

I don't really believe in 'being in control' of Pure Evil(tm), You've already lost it once you start using it.

All I'm saying is that I, as well as some other people, would have liked to see a Garrosh that is completely clean and without any weird eyeballs. I guess in some way it was inevitable, since we need our bosses to look spooky and, well, evil, but still. No matter how unambigious Blizzard is going to tell us that it is Garrosh is in control, as long as he has Old God-esque eyeballs coming out the yahoo, there's going to be people (including myself) believing the opposite.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Raenmar on Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:52 pm

To be fair, it wasn't just transfers than were 50% off, it was all services including things like recustomization and faction changes in that. I know, I used one.

I know, but it just happened to be a week before they announced virtual realms. It wasn't just a nice gesture that they coincidentally gave a week before announcing a solution that makes transfers pointless.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Cid on Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:33 pm

Still finding all those implementations of crappy and buggy stuff to be a disgrace for the company, when they should listen to their customers and just MERGE THE FRIGGIN' REALMS!

But nope, try to squish out every last penny out of the suckers before doing such a thing.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Grufftoof on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:35 am

Or, you know, they announced loads of stuff to roll along with the hype of everything going on at E3. And also to let everyone squirm and squee and argue over which of all the things is "THE BIG-SMALL NON-ANNOUNCEMENT THING (tm) IN 5.4" (My guess, with the info in, is this was definitely the merged-style-realms)

The "everything 50% off" was a blanket fee to all services.  That it's announced, then this announced... someone will always complain that the thing they just paid for at X amount is now Y amount.  Regardless of when the price change happens.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Melnerag on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:48 am

5.4 won't be around for 3ish months.

Discount was offered now.

It seems pretty legit to me.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Raenmar on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:54 am

The "everything 50% off" was a blanket fee to all services.  That it's announced, then this announced... someone will always complain that the thing they just paid for at X amount is now Y amount.  Regardless of when the price change happens.



It was probably a blanket fee so people could use that argument to make it sound coincidental.

They knew that virtual realms would come into play soon, but they chose to announce it after 50% off all services. If they just wanted to save the virtual realms stuff to go with E3, then they could have made the services half price after. They knew exactly what they were doing, and chances are they did it for the sole reason of making whatever money they could from transfers before making them obsolete.


5.4 won't be around for 3ish months.

Discount was offered now.

Before virtual realms was announced.

How many people do you think would have bought a discounted transfer after the announcement?

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Post by Grufftoof on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:04 am

The tech and programming for virtual realms has probably been in development for months (if not longer) and the patch is still (as Meln says) 3+ months away in likelihood.

They offered a discount recently (it ended this week).

These two things are actually positives.  They didn't have to offer any discount (it's been quite some time since they did) and they're working to making low pop realms better.

I don't really get the anguish and irritation with the thought that "one aspect of the discount offered this week may be worth less (or even worthless) in an unknown number of weeks or months".

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Post by Raenmar on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:12 am

They offered the discount to give the impression that there wouldn't be a solution any time soon. A lot of people that otherwise wouldn't have transferred saw the discount and thought 'oh, fuck, it's my best chance to get off this dead server and I'll never have another chance so I guess I should take it now'.

So they got every last customer they could to pay for a transfer, and 2 days later they told them that this technology that'd solve the problem permanently was 3 months away.

There was absolutely no point in people transferring, because in a few months the problem will be solved for free. Most people would have saved their money if they knew that, which is why Blizzard didn't tell them.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by erwtenpeller on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:17 am

Oh my god Raenmar give it a rest already. You're bumming me out.

Let's talk more about creepy shoulder-eyes Garrosh!

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Thelos on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:57 am

Basicly with Raenmar is saying is that Blizzard is good at doing business and made a clever business manoeuvre. What else is new? They're not here to entertain you or to make art. They're here to take your money by any means necessary.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Flo on Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:14 am

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So this happens. Buzz on SoL is that the Golden Lotus faction's going down the drain along with the zone.

Part of me wants to start playing again just to see what its like before these changes hit live, but meh.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Drustai on Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:29 am

Meanwhile, Paozi Wulong has a heart attack.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Grufftoof on Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:34 am

GL "Protectors" are a boss, apparently.  Corrupted I assume.

This shafting, desolation and horror... brilliant.  War should be terrible.  Garrosh is the embodiment of power hungry war.  And, of course, pride.

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Xen-tau on Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:36 am

This whole: "In control of sha/being controlled by the sha" reminds me of a certain minor villain...It could very well be me though. Especially now that I thought the Vale had been blighted..

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Re: Mists of Pandaria

Post by Thelos on Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:43 am

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So this happens. Buzz on SoL is that the Golden Lotus faction's going down the drain along with the zone.

Part of me wants to start playing again just to see what its like before these changes hit live, but meh.

HOLY BALLS.

Just...

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